I agree Buck. Romney is the new Republican fall guy. I would rather fight against Obama for 4 more years than have a sheep-in-wolf's clothing Republican further destroying the party and country. Look what happened with Bush's second term....led to the most radical president ever.

It's a little early for sour grapes already, isn't it?

What exactly does Christianity have to do with this?

Fighting for the Constitution and human rights for all is clearly worth fighting for. But, lest ye forget, the US Constitution does not mention Christianity even once. Maybe you should read it (again, or for the first time, maybe). Article VI (that's six in roman numerals) says, "...no religious Test shall ever be required
as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under
the United States." Sound familiar? Separation of Church and State? Thank you, Thomas Jefferson!

Losing Christianity? The only way a person loses their faith is if they don't practice it and just because a person is not a christian does not mean that they are an evil or immoral person. I am neither a christian nor evil and immoral.

Speaking of the constitution, the first amendment states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

this line .... Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..... gives me just as much right to practice my faith as a non-christian as it does you, a christian.

Chelsea Willis, you should read Dr. Ben Carson's latest book America the Beautiful. From what you just said, you'd love it.

Actually Jon, Ben Carson's book does not look like a bad read. just because I do not practice a Judeo-Christian faith does not mean that I am anti-Judeo-christians, quite the opposite. Amazon's book description of "America the Beautiful calls us all to use our God-given talents to improve our lives, our communities, our nation, and our world." is something that I believe. People should use their talents to improve the world around them and not just for greed and self betterment. All living creatures are worthy of love and respect.

Every politician (R) or (D) is in the back pocket of someone. To believe otherwise is foolish and narrow minded. You can barely even get on a ballot without selling your soul to some devil or another.

But Andy got his healthcare!

The health care debacle remains to be seen..

Where's Corey with some fracking jokes.

Come on Corey, don't make me pick up your slack here :)

Obama's been great every since the debt crisis resolution. He successfully flushed out the 'Republicans' of today for what they are. Greedy, religious spouting yet insensitive warmongers - the reason this country is hated abroad. They are out for the top 1% and continue with failed trickle down economics and the continued screwing of the middle class.
Meanwhile, Obama's measures are slowly but consistently taking this economy OUT of the recession. The numbers don't lie, and we'll see more evidence Friday.

The actual early debates were actually valuable because certain candidates now gone actually proposed REAL conservative concepts without excessively favoring the top 1% and Wall Street.

Obama, meanwhile, was positively awful early this term by my own view. He really turned the corner in my view with the debt debate, and his solutions for it. Solutions Republicans in a different generation would have EMBRACED.

Part of me loves Republicans in the House because Obama has become a better president for it. He's actually center-left now. However, the House Repubs are so completely unforgiving, that it just isn't going to work.
There's a reason Congress' approval rating is constantly below 20%.
I fear for what a Democratically controlled Congress would do with this country, but not nearly as much as the screwing we'd all get if Republicans circa 2010 ran the country.

Keep the religion out of this. Ultimately, this election is about removing the worst President in US history from office. Since his own party will not acknowledge the damage he has done, Republicans need to put the most electable candidate forward.

And, as the ship listed, bow deeply submerged, stern hoisted high, propellers spinningin the air, Captain Obama could be heard barking the orders...."DAMN THE DEFICIT$...FULL SPEED AHEAD!"

Jim: That's because anyone with an impartial brain understands you spend your way out of recessions. Over and over again, that's how it's done throughout our history. Sure, you cut deficits afterwards. Republicans mindset is to cut off the wounded arm instead of trying to save it with medicine. It's barabaric, and harkens back to centuries past.

You people really think austerity measures work? Look and see how Europe's doing. Angela Merkel - in charge of essentially saving the Eurozone through no fault of her own, is completely over her head.

Europe's austerity measures are doing as much to harm this country's own recovery then anything Obama's done. Take a look around.

Tim, you are only partially right. You do spend your way out of a recession. But not by giving the money to businesses that don't redstribute it down to the population by creating jobs. Also, you don't spend on projects that violate the Constitution (Obamacare).

Weren't enough lifeboats, filled by the 1%ers.

Please, this country was way worse off in the 1930's.

I personally think good Republican candidates stayed away because they knew what they would be up against - irrationally radical conservative base, a bad situation to begin with.
I will still hold, until the bitter end, that Jon Huntsman was the best shot Republicans ever had at beating Obama. His party ate him alive. It was pathetic. Democrats I knew were BEGGING him to take his actual conservative principles to the Democratic party. Huntsman literally fixed Utah - my brother lives out there and he's a Democrat/Independent who swears by him. He did so with true bi-partisan support.

Both parties are awful right now. I recognize all to well that Obama with a full majority in Congress will be ALMOST as terrible as one with Repubs of today. Like you, I just don't see a great future for the management of our country. Too much corruption, too much blind hatred of others.
it's tragic.

I agree ...I support Ron Paul as well.... realist though. Paul would be the best thing that could happen for our Country.
The only Republican that would beat Obama hands down would be Donald Trump... but at this point he's not in the race... I'd still vote for Ron Paul though..

Buck, are you kidding me, please tell me you don't really think Trump as a serious candidate. Please tell me you were kidding, otherwise please go directly to the Birther Farm.

I'm kidding Paul....but if you really think about it, the fact that he would run would wake up a huge portion of the apathetic couch potato public. More people would vote than have ever voted and his chances of winning would be great!
I'm still lookin for that original birth certificate though...how did you know that i live on a farm?

Obama doesn't need your support....the fix is in... 4 more years,,same'ol..same'ol.
Fun stuff to ponder, glad you got a laugh!

Glad you weren't smoking at the time! Talk about dangeous habits.

Is this a serious comment?
5.3 trillion more added to the debt in 3 years..
NOT ONE BUDGET FOR OVER 3 YEARS
HIS LAST BUDGET NOT 1 VOTE DEMOCRAT OR REP.
- STOPPING THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE-
Continuing to attack oil companies and domestic drilling, then going to venesula and telling them we want to be there biggest customer! (when campaigning he talked about reducing our dependence on foreign oil)
-Telling Russia to wait til he gets re-elected before expecting us to release information on our defense Missile program, because he will have more flexibility. (NATIONAL SECUTIRY MUST BE TOP PRIORITY)
-TRYING TO SOCIALIZE HEALTHCARE!! Socialized healthcare is terrible ask the CANADIANS WHO JUST HIRED CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATURE TO GET RID OF THEIR SOCIALIZED HEALTHCARE

We have found Steve. Do you read history Steve? Apparently not. You have exposed yourself. Tea Party Man Steve, a moron.

What's your educational background Steve?

Steve:

Obama has produced budgets the last two years. They've been shot down by the Teapublicans.
Additionally, he initiated Simpson-Bowles, a bi-partisan effort to come up with a budget plan. It was just failed by the House just last week.

The Keystone Pipeline is a joke. The 'jobs' created are both temporary and exaggerated from what I've read. Not only does it kill more of our nation's flagging countryside, you make it sound like we're keeping all the oil we produce. All oil production goes through the world market as far as I understand it.
The only reason to honestly go through with this, is because if we don't, China will come in and finance it with Canada. It just won't run through our country too.

Out of that 5.3 trillion in debt, a good 40 % of that is lolwar costs from a conflict Obama's still managed to get us out of. More goes to BTC's that should have ended in 2010. They were ill-conceived back in 2001. One of many things ill-conceived from our previous administration.

Oh, and BTW, you know the 'individual mandate' was first proposed by Republicans twenty years ago, right? You knew that...right? The Heritage Foundation specifically.
Why? Because Republicans back then, were actually conservatives instead of radical wingnuts. They hated the idea that people with insurance were forced to pay taxes to support those who couldn't afford healthcare. The individual mandate under The PPAHA would accomplish this.

One more note: I actually am not a fan of the PPAHA. Although I've warmed up to it a bit over time, I see it as hitting a nail with a sledgehammer. Overkill.
Government should be regulating private insurance companies more effectively, rather then taking a more hands on role in the process.
Private Insurance companies aren't looking out for you, they're looking out for profits only. That's a sh***y way to treat fellow humans when it comes to the issue of health.

All is fair in love and war, Steve. If you ask for Tim's you must share too!

Wait, you are claiming I'm ignorant, after your commentary at 5:00pm? Seriously?

I'm not an economist, but I'm a student of history and listen to various economists commentary - via public and satellite radio, the Wall Street Journal, Reuters, etc etc. I read both conservative and liberal economists views in order to develop my own beliefs. Trickle down economics is a failed endeavor. The day the economy gets better is the day the middle class begins having money to spend - and the confidence to do so.

Businesses don't create jobs - customers/demand create them. This is common sense for many folks, just not Republicans today.

Ahh, Steve joined the Patch today.

It's really a bad plan right out of the gate. I will never participate..I barter for my family healthcare and that works perfect for me.

This is absolutely true Buck.
The emphasis on specialized medicine is a big problem (from cost management) in our health care system from a cost management standpoint. Over the past twenty years the role of the primary care physician has been completely neutralized.
It's basically a "doc in the box" these days.

Specialists get about 25-40% more money, and private insurance companies get to charge 100 to who knows how much% more. Profit for everyone - except the policy holder.